ULTIMATE HISTORY
The following are Joe Seidler's personal ideas and calculations |
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TEAM
|
City
|
Number of Times
Semifinalist (then lost) |
Number of Times
Runner-up (#2) |
Number of Times
Champion |
Point
Score* |
Rank
|
|
|
Condors and Sockeye shown divided into
their 2 major generations below: |
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| DoG (1994-2002) |
Boston
|
3
|
0
|
6
|
39
|
1.
|
| NYNY (1987-1993) |
NYC
|
1
|
0
|
6
|
37
|
2.
|
| Furious George (1999-2007) |
Vancouver
|
3
|
2
|
3
|
27
|
3.
|
| Revolver (2009-present) |
SF
Bay Area |
0
|
2
|
3
|
24
|
4.
|
| Condors (1977-1984) |
Santa
Barbara |
3
|
1
|
3
|
24
|
4.
|
| Sockeye (2002-2010) |
Seattle
|
3
|
1
|
3
|
24
|
4.
|
| Condors (1998-2003) |
Santa
Barbara |
0
|
3
|
2
|
21
|
7.
|
| Windy City (1983-1992) |
Chicago
|
5
|
1
|
2
|
20
|
8.
|
| Jam (2000-2009) |
SF
Bay Area |
4
|
2
|
1
|
16
|
9.
|
| Ironside (2008-present) |
Boston
|
2
|
3
|
0
|
11
|
10.
|
| Chain Lightning (2006-present) |
Atlanta
|
3
|
0
|
1
|
9
|
11.
|
| Sockeye (1995-1997) |
Seattle
|
0
|
3
|
0
|
9
|
11.
|
| Team "generation" is not a common term. I use it here in order to try to compare teams more appropriately, and I define a team generation where they have mostly the same leaders (coaches and/or captains) and players. For instance, the Condors have used the same name since 1976 and if you combine all of their years they would have the most points. However, that would be including their wins in the 1977-1984 timeframe with those in the 1998-2003 timeframe, and their leaders and rosters in those two different timeframes were very different. If you are trying to measure the "best" team, then I think you should compare each of the Condor's periods (or generations) to the other teams who lasted only as long as the majority of their leaders and players continued to play together. Generally a team generation lasts about 6-8 years with a few going a bit longer. I arbitrarily limit a team generation to 10 years. |
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